'Saudis would let IAF jets fly over kingdom on Iran mission'

Too much talk..I wish everybody just shut up about it(not you guys..)

Why?

The possibility of an Israeli attack has been discussed for some time now-- this topic is nothing new..

And-- there's no indication here of when it will happen-- or if it will.

Its even possible that Israel won't attack Iran at all.

Actually, IMO, the big story here is not about the military aspect of this-- but rather the political aspect. Namely, its another indication of how much the past "solidarity" of the Muslim world has crumbled-- and o f the split between Iran and many Sunni states. (The fact that Saudi Arabia might let Israel use its airspace to attack an Islamic country would have been unthinkable a while back...).

They are beginning to openly admit what any half-way intelligent person knew all along-- the real danger to countries in the area comes from exztrmeist states , such as Iran. Israel has no intention of attacking any country for no reason if they are not attacked first. But the madmen of Iran are another matter entirely...

The big worry is civil defense preparations, as no doubt lots of rockets and mortars from gaza and south Lebanon

Apparently Hizb'Allah has many more rockets than before the war. And they are defintiely a puppet of Iran. however, if they shot rockets at Israel, the consequences for them would be severe.

Another scary thought is Hizb'Allah operatives attacking targets in western cities-- including the U.S.

And-- Iran blocking oil shipping out of the Gulf.

.the Saudis are not all that trustworthy...

Some of the jets can fly really fast-- I wonder how long it would take Israeli planes to traverse Saudi airspace? (Or-- perhaps they could travel along the Iraqi-Saudi border after a quick transit across Jordan?). It seems that they flew over Turkey in part of the flight to attack that Syrian reactor...I don't think the Turks admitted it publically...?

No doubt, the U.S. (largest consumer of oil) has bartered with the Saudis (largest producer of oil) for this on behalf of Israel.

So you think Obama's behind this?

I hate to say it,

Why do you hate to say it?

(Perhaps because you know there's no basis in fact-- its guess a wild guess? In fact, one based on a political agenda...? :)

Btw, for starters-- check out this seed: A new cold war in the Middle East

Ahmadinejadm, though wacky as he is, at least speaks the truth regarding Israel - they are illegally occupying territory and committing ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.

Well, first of all-- that's false. But-- what does it have to do from the fact that Sunni Arab countries see him as a threat? This has nothing to do with Israel-Palestine issues:

Most Arabs won't miss Iran's ayatollahs if they fall

And the U.S. sells its soul to the highest bidder too.

And just who, exactly, do you think Obama is selling the our soul to?

Ahmadinejadm, though wacky as he is,

Perhaps you should watch this recent video about what his thugs are doing to student activists

I started to compose a response to you, Krishna, but first I checked out your newsvine site. A lot of sensational seeds.

Yes-- I do tend to try to focus on important issues-- you'll not find much about Britney in my NV columns :)

(Well, occasionally I do post trivia-- but merely for an occasional break. Underneath, I am a very serious person).

So-- what sign are you? Pisces?

Scorpio? Cancer?

Then I looked for your comments, but you do not show them.

Well, a while back a group of overly enthusiastic self-appointed guardians of the public morality on NV accused me of being "the pointman on NV for a terrorist group"-- so the list of my comments and my friends remains hidden just to make it more difficult for them to spread their nonsense...(of course they still persisted)

Then I looked at your "Essential Reading" and was initially impressed that you had read all those books......but then I saw that your "Essential Reading" is nothing more than editorial websites, YouTube and your own seeds.

Well, I've often done the same thing with people I didn't know on NV...oftimes it is a quick way to find out about a person. In my case it is a bit more difficult, however, as I am a bit more complex-- and much more knowledgeable in some specialized areas-- than many here (yes, I know that sounds arrogant...but what can I say..its true! :^)

And-- if you knew all the books I've read on those subjects, you might be quite impressed. But I didn't list them.

Why?

For starters-- reading can be done from books-- or from websites. In both cases there's garbage..and there's "gold". So why did I only list websites? Well, I figured most Viners might check them out, but fewer people read books now-a-days. And websites are more up to date than older books-- in some cases that's an additional plus.

I would be very careful as to defining my foreign policy according to YouTube. We've had enough armchair politics from TV-As-My-Resource Americans who have studied nary a bit of Middle Eastern history.

Oh, I definitely agree. However, as with the cases discussed above (both websites and books may be of great value, or might be garbage)-- the same applies to YouTube videos. (Would you really want to rely only on books for coverage of the recent Iranian street protests? Did not websites and videos provide info that books could not?)

So-- the key thing in this age of information deluge is..how to interpret information wisely.

And, btw-- my knowlege of the mideast is not based soley upon YouTube videos! While I do agree to some degree with Marshall McLuhan's "the media is the message"-- to some degree I also feel that-- the actual message is the message! It rewires some wisdom to interpret all this information...but there are factal and useful YouTube videos amongst the dreck...

What I say is based not only on YouTube (actually, very little is-- but I find that carefully selected videos can make a point very well). Its based partially upon many years of my life spent as a human-rights activist. And-- re: the mid-east--I've lived in Israel-- several times-- worked as a volunteer on 2 very different kibbutzim-- lived in tel Aviv working on a photoshoot with some top Israeli fashiopn models-- lived for a few weeks in Tangier, spent time in Egypt-- a bit more than you will see in my NV column.

We've had enough armchair politics from TV-As-My-Resource Americans who have studied nary a bit of Middle Eastern history.

I don't watch TV*. Ever.

(I don't even own a working TV :)

And I've studied quite a bit of mid-east history.

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*Well, occasionally I see it when I'm on the treadmill at the gym...but that's very, very limited...and most of the screens display sports...i try to stay away from it...

Media sensationalism: a manner of being extremely controversial, loud, or attention grabbing. It is especially applied to the emphasis of the unusual or atypical. It is also a form of theatre.

A good description of much of what goes on on Newsvine! (Well-- those seeds that get votes and comments-- those that do not meet your criteria for "Media sensationalism" often attract little attention-- no discussion or perhaps 1 or 2 comments and a similar number of votes.

Unfortunately, the internet has surpassed television as a sensational media outlet.

Why do you consider that to be unfortunate?

Peer reviewed journal articles are the best resource.

Best for what? Certainly not for "reaching the masses"...

Ah yes its always the oil and always the U.S. It couldn't possibly be the fact that the Iranians are persians and not arabs. It couldn't be the fact that the iranians have threatened most of the countires on the Arab penninsula side for years. It couldn't possibly be Irans claims on the country of Bahrain. Couldn't possibly be the fact that iran claims most of the arab leadership as heretics. It couldn't possibly be the fact that Iran would love to own the two holiest locations in all of Islam. It couldn't possibly be the fact that Iran has declared the Holocaust to be a lie and the destruction of Israel as thier number one want. It couldn't possibly be the fact that the U.S only imports 2% of the Natural Gas and 2% of Refined Petroleum products sold by Saudi Arabia, or that China, Japan, and korea are its biggest customers.

It always oil.

Well---- as a "peer'-- I'd like to give your comment a "peer review"-- albeit a brief one: excellent comment! Several excellent points-- also things not known by many on the 'Vine. Very helpful... :)