Jerusalem Planning Over 5,000 New Arab Housing Units

if i go to war with israel dropped a dozen or so hydrogen bombs on the land, wipe everything in sight,

Israel is so tiny-- the entire countey is only about the size of New Jersey-- that if it dropped nukes on either the West Bank or Gaza-- Israel itself would be destroyed!

I didn't know that there were Palestinian members in the Kenesset. That is a very good point.

Israeli Arabs have full citizenship, and equal rights. As such, they have the right to vote (a right that, ironically, they would not have in most Arab countries!

I didn't know that there were Palestinian members in the Kenesset. That is a very good point.

Israeli Arabs have full citizenship, and equal rights. As such, they have the right to vote (a right that, ironically, they would not have in most Arab countries!

They have formed two (perhaps three?) "Arab political parties". However, these are small , and many Israeli Arabs don/'t vote for them. (Israel have a European-style democracy-- unlike the American 2 party systems they have many parties representing many viewpoints). But rather then voting for one of the small Arab parties, many Israeli Arabs vote for one of the larger parties-- mainly the somewhat leftist Labour Party.

..after turning the entire palestinian population into refugees and homeless. The ENTIRE Palestinian population? What credibility could anyone have after an untrue exaggeration like that? Who voted the Arab/Muslim members into the Knesset - the ghosts of the Palestinians who in their entirety fled from Israel?

Not only do Israel Arab have full citizenship and other democratic rights such as the right to vote-- but some are actually patriotic citizens-- even volunteering to serve in the IDF (Israel defense Forces):

Arabs Fighting for Israel

Many realize that conditions for them are better than they would be in most Arab countries-- in fact polls indicate that they are aware of this:

Poll: 77% of Israeli Arabs would rather live in Israel than in any other country in the world

C123456789 was an obnoxious troll-- and a persistent one. He also violated rules by registering multiple accounts. Here's what finally happened to him-- see Tyler's comment #1.35 HERE.

Yes life is beautiful in Gaza

That's because of the Egyptian and Israeli blockades-- which the Gazans brought upon themselves because of their actions. However, those on the West Bank act differently-- so the results are different. "What goes around comes around"

Please watch this short video-- and see the difference.

and the Palestinian refugee camps in Syria , Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt is luxurious and envious,

I agree-- most Arabs treat their Palestinians cousins terribly!

I dont know, but common sense says The reason that the refugee camp is miserable is because it is a refugee camp for people displaced and made refugees !!!

Indeed--- you do not know.

Palestinian refugees in several Arab countries are forced to live in misery in camps. But there are also displaced Jews-- Jewish refugees from Arab countries in Israel. The difference? the Israeli government has not forced disdplaced Jewish refugees into camps-- in fact, it has helped them-- and that's the difference!

Gaza is full of refugees, a big concentration camp.

I think you are jsut throwing words around with out knowing their meaning. Do you know what athe concentration camps were actually like?

Here's what Gaza looks like:

Photos of Palestinians in Gaza at the Start of Ramadan

"Palestine Today published pictures of the general atmosphere in villages and cities in the Gaza Strip at the start of the Islamic month of fasting: Ramadan.

OK-- I found those pictures of Gaza-- what you mistakenly refer to as a "concentration camp".

Now its your turn-- find some photos of actual concentration camps-- and we'll see how they compare!

Okay, I've been reading all the links. Clearly the Jewish people have the right to the land. There is no evidence whatsoever that Palestinians have ever been the true inhabitants, nor has it ever been one of their holy lands. They just made it up. What I don't understand is why is the US and the UN pushing for a two-state solution? It seems to me that the Jewish people are entitled to all the land, including that inhabited by Palestinians. Why are they being treated as though they have a legitimate claim to any of the land? Clearly they do not.

Its really quite simple actually. the Arabs have the oil-- the rst of the world must not get them too pissed off..

Okay, I've been reading all the links. Clearly the Jewish people have the right to the land. There is no evidence whatsoever that Palestinians have ever been the true inhabitants, nor has it ever been one of their holy lands. They just made it up.

After years of occupying Gaza, the Israeli government decided that Israel would end the occupation. All settlements in Gaza were destroyed-- Israelis forceably evicted from their homes by Israeli soldiers under orders to do so (many of these people had lived in their homes there their entire lives). At the time it was thought that by leaving Gaza and handing it over to the Palestinians...there would be progress towards peace.And, after the end of the occupation of Gaza, there were plans to gradually pull back from much of the occupied West Bank.

Of course the reverse was true-- after Israel pulled out (there is no longer a single Jew left in the entire place), Hamas seized control-- and started firing rockets from Gaza at Israel in great numbers. So ending the occupation of Gaza resulted in-- grerter Palestinain violence, not less. Israeli public opinion-- whic h was in favour of giving up land for peace-- shifted-- and the planned pull back from parts of the West Bank never occurred...

Video-- Jews being forced out of their homes by Israeli troops-- in the Gaza settlement of Netzer Hazani.

Oh my God. That was just gut wrenching. I had to force myself to watch the whole video. They shouldn't have been forced to endure that. Watching their homes be torn down. I can't imagine. I am angry

The government ended the occupation of Gaza because they thought if they made that major concession, the Palis would move toward peace-- but instead they did the opposite-- stepped up their firing of missiles at Israeli houses and schools. Here's a video of a scene in an Israeli playground in the town of Sderot, just over the border-- it suddenly comes under missile attack (they have 15 seconds from the warning sirens to seek shelter before the missiles hit).The missiles kept on coming. Finally the Israelis got fed up and launced the incursion into Gaza (Operation Cast Lead). Most of the world criticized them for defending themselves...

Bomb them @!$%#ers. Warn the people to get out first and then level the place

They did!

Israel does what practically no other nation does. Before they bomb an area in Gaza, they drop warning leaflets. And then--- they actually make phone calls to all the resident warning them!!!

But of course the Hamas leadership doesn't want to save lives-- they actually want people to die. So when they get a warning an area will be hit-- here's what they do:

Hamas admits to deliberately using human shields (short video - 51 seconds)

Here's a longer and much more informative video about Hamas' strategy:

Hamas Exploitation of Civilians as Human Shields — Visual evidence of the long-standing Hamas tactic of exploiting civilians as human shields, and civilians buildings as cover for terrorist attacks.

Off topic comments and personal attacks will be deleted. (Not quite the "Synthesis approach to deletions of course (scroll down-- those comments he deleted were all appropriate) , -- but here I am actually deleting comment for an actual reason :-)

Krishna , thank you for the propaganda links , only idiots would buy your marketing gimmicks about the poor Israeli criminal army who murdered 700 children only in the latest criminal offensive against Gaza and caused permanent injuries to thousands. Israeli crimes are a disgrace to the great Jewish faith, go ahead , continue killing Palestinians, you sure enjoy it , what a shame

But, of course, you must be aware of what actually happened?

Israel does what practically no other nation does. Before they bomb an area in Gaza, they drop warning leaflets. And then--- they actually make phone calls to all the resident warning them!!! But of course the Hamas leadership doesn't want to save lives-- they actually want people to die. So when they get a warning an area will be hit-- here's what they do:

Hamas admits to deliberately using human shields (short video - 51 seconds)

When the western nations can decrease their need for oil to the amount that they are capable of producing themselves, with the production of electric cars, wind power, solar energy, hydro-electric power, nuclear power, increased efficiency etc. to help that along, the world's pandering to the oil producing nations that produce nothing else will end.

It may be a while, but that day will come. In the meantime, through the years, the Arab lobby has always had the most influence on the circles of true power in Washington.

Perrie, don't pay any attention to this person. Don't waste your time responding. His (her?) outrageous comments are made just to bait others.

Good point.

Unfortuantely, its an all too common tactic employed from time to time on NV-- when a person begins to realize that they are sticking to a position that has little merit, and the facts are against them, they try to distract from that by attempting to change the subject-- often by turning away from the topic and engaging in personal attacks on other NV users. The best strategy is to ignore them, and to report their actions to NV staff.

Perrie dont get your hopes up, they aint building nothing for the arabs , the only plan is palestenian genocide

You might want to check out this story.

(Well, on second thought-- you probably wouldn't want to know about it 8-)

By the way the topic of this seed is BOGUS they will never build anything for the arabs, they either kill them or stick them in refugee camps

Actually, i find your comment interesting-- not so much for what it says about the mid-east, but for what it says about what you beleive-- it seems you really sincerely beleive that.

But the fact is-- they are doing that. the article is fact.

And, in fact, conditions in the West Bank are improving:

Conditions Keep Improving for West Bank Palestinians

see also-- Palestinian President, " We are having a good life. "

, i would be very surprised, the radical settlers will rise up in arms

I wouldn't be surprised. there are a lot of efforts at reconciliation, and there are peopel (on both sides) working towards peace and understanding...here's but one example (and I do beleive you when you say things like this surpise you :-)

P.S. There are radicals on both sides of course..but the 'settlers" live in settlements-- communities out in the west bank, not in the big city (jerusalem).