Newsvine
  • Welcome
  • Help
  • Report Bug
  • Conversation Tracker
  • Your Column
  • Replies
  • Friends
Type Comments Since You Last CheckedArticle Source Last Checked Stop Tracking All Clear Tracking All
Advertise | AdChoices
Log In | Register
Close the Login Panel
Existing users log in below. New users please register for a free account.

New Users:

Existing Users:

E-Mail:
Password:
Forgot Password?
Please enter the e-mail address or domain name you registered with:
E-Mail/Domain:
Back to Login
Log Out
  • Top News
  • Local News
  • World
  • U.S.
  • Sports
  • Politics
  • Tech
  • Entertainment
  • Science
  • Business
  • Health
  • Odd News
  • More
    • Arts
    • Education
    • Environment
    • Fashion
    • History
    • Home & Garden
    • Not News
    • Religion
    • Travel
Visit krishna-167929's column >>

KRISHNA-167929

Home Page
Spiritual Seeker
Articles Posted: 145  Links Seeded: 6697
Member Since: 7/2007  Last Seen: 5/01/2012

What is Newsvine?

Updated continuously by citizens like you, Newsvine is an instant reflection of what the world is talking about at any given moment.

Get a Free Account
Help
Fun Stuff
  • Your Clippings
  • Leaderboard
  • E-Mail Alerts
  • Top of the Vine
  • Newsvine Live
  • Newsvine Archives
  • The Greenhouse
  • Recommended Articles
  • Wall of Vineness
Put a Seed Newsvine link on your own site

Do your kids know their fruits and veggies?

Seeded on Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:40 AM EDT
Read ArticleArticle Source: MNN
health, video, food, children, school, nutrition, vegetables, pizza, fast-food, fruits, burgers, jamie-oliver, fries, the-naked-chef
Seeded by krishna-167929
Advertise | AdChoices

"Jamie Oliver visits an elementary school and finds that most kids have trouble identifying common fruits and veggies.

  • Enjoy this article? Help vote it up the 'Vine.

Published to:

  • krishna-167929's Column, All of Newsvine
  • Groups: Activism, Advocacy Ink, Alternative Health & Wellness, America's Need For Change, Anything but Politics, Bar Room Debates, Because I Can, Children's Bread, Citizens Against Apathy, Coffee Table, Cultural Understanding, Environment, Ethnoscapes, Foodies!, Free Market, Free Spirits & Thinkers , FROM THE INSIGHT OUT, Gates of Eden, HealthVine, Newsvine Fitness, Newsvine Science, Open Mic, Open Source Intelligence, Operation: Hearts and Minds, Organic Life, Outraged Americans For Justice, RantVine, Real-Life Heroes, Science And Technology, Seeders and Posters w/ Manners, Soapbox, Successful Solutions, Teachers, The Truth Network, Two Hands, Vegetarians, Video & Music Links, WTF?
  • Regions: Charleston/Huntington, New York
  • Public Discussion (35)
krishna-167929

Have you seen sneak peak of Jamie Oliver (aka The Naked Chef) in his newest series, Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution, in which the celebrity chef aims to change America's topsy-turvy eating habits? The series starts out in Huntington, W. Va., which has been called the unhealthiest city in America. Oliver's hope with the series is to create a "food revolution" that catches on across the nation. And to start things off, he visits a first-grade classroom to see which fruits and veggies the kids can identify. Here's how it went:

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:41 AM EDT
krishna-167929

Interesting that they easily recognized French fries-- but didn't recognize a potato or that fries were made from potatoes. They knew about ketchup-- but didn't knew it was made from tomatoes-- or even know what a tomato was...

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:47 AM EDT
lovemyplanet-400560

I tried to watch but there was a note saying "This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make sure you accept the senders Friend Request". Still, I read the little article. I'm speechless! How can children not know what vegetables look like???

  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:58 AM EDT
Mego-507171

I had the same problem too, however I am watching the show via youtube right now. It's astonishing. I want to go exercise.

  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:47 AM EDT
Megidoloan

You can go to ABC's website and watch the full episodes there.

http://abc.go.com/shows/jamie-olivers-food-revolution

  • 2 votes
#3.2 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:04 PM EDT
krishna-167929

You can go to ABC's website and watch the full episodes there.

http://abc.go.com/shows/jamie-olivers-food-revolution

Thanks for the link :)

(I hadn't realized that he was so mainstream).

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:33 PM EDT
Reply
krishna-167929

That's strange-- when I seeded it the video was accessable. After I read your comment I looked at it again and couldn't view it-- and saw the message you did. I guess he decided to make it private just after I seeded it!

Part of what it shows are the things I mentioned in comment #2. I was wondering if the kids just hadn't learned the names of the vegetables-- o r if they actually didn't know what they were.

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:09 AM EDT
ReaperOne1Two2

It wouldn't surprise me if they just didn't have a clue what they were due to never being fed any of it at home. Although even if they did know what they were that's only a tip of the issue with many families which is they may teach there kids what the food is but haven't reinforced it with any strength to a point the kids will actively pursue eating it with controlled portions. By the sounds of it though the parents themselves haven't even introduced it to them.

  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:04 AM EDT
Reply
Buzz of the Orient

I bet the kids can tell the difference between a Big Mac and a Whopper, and name the contents of a Happy Meal.

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:41 AM EDT
Bighorn

Most kids know who their flakes and nuts are.

  • 1 vote
Reply#6 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:33 AM EDT
Megidoloan

I watched two episodes of that show last night and was just blown out of the water. Not only that the kids didn't recognize common, everyday vegetables, but at the experiment Jamie did with the chicken nuggets. For those who didn't watch, Jamie took the bones/gristle/other nasty parts of the chicken that go into the nuggets, put them in a blender, and made this slurry that the kids were disgusted by. He then covered them in breadcrumbs and fried them.

The kids said they'd eat them since they looked like chicken nuggets. I was as stunned as Jamie was. What the hell?

The show was so disheartening. Nobody cares.

  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:09 PM EDT
Mego-507171

I was shocked at that part... and the food that one family consumed. Dear lord.

  • 2 votes
#7.1 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:25 PM EDT
Megidoloan

I thought Jamie made a great point when he pointed out that all the food the family had was the same color - golden brown. I never even noticed that!

A book I love is called Hungry Planet, and it's mostly a photobook describing what people around the world eat. They take a picture of each family and the food it takes to feed them for a week. The foods in the impoverished areas were the best-looking ones! Lots of brightly colored (but not neon-esque and obnoxious like American packaging) veggies/fruit and fresh meat and raw grains and other ingredients. It just looked like good food.

By contrast, the more Americanized the society is, the more repulsive the food appears. Everything is in the aforementioned neon and glittery boxes. All the food is frozen (like frozen pizzas and meals) and is flagged by a wall of soda bottles. It nauseated me and really opened my eyes. Except for those times where I just want to eat crappy junk food (eh, I'm not perfect), those pictures stick in my mind every time I go to the grocery store. And I think it's a big part of why I hate being in grocery stores - too overstimulating. I'm so fortunate to have lots of farmer's markets where I live.

It's a great book. I really think everyone should read it. That and it's "sister" book, Material World, which is basically the same concept but with peoples' possessions instead of their food. I learned a ton from them.

  • 1 vote
#7.2 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 4:31 PM EDT
Reply
krishna-167929

In a way it was shocking.

But in a way I suppose it shouldn't have been surprising. There is currently an"obesity epidemic". It seems now-a-days so there are so many people who asre extremwely overweight. And it not just adults-- I don't think I ever saw so many obese kids several years ago...its a real problem. (This sort of obesity is highly correlated with an increased incidence of all sorts of diseases-- and in many cases at a surprisingly early age).

There are several contributing factors-- but poor nutrition (eating junk food, trans-fats, HFCS, etc) is a major one.

  • 2 votes
Reply#8 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:44 PM EDT
Mego-507171

You know what I don't get...I'm not that old (26), and while there was quite a bit of packaged food in my home as a kid, my parents also made an effort to limit the amount of junkfood we had. We never had soda in the house, and we were only allowed to consume it on special occaisons.

While our meals were certainly supplemented with the occaisonal hamburger helper and frozen pizza, my parents still made an effort to put salads, vegetable dishes, and healthy grilled meats etc.

Nowadays, I am mostly vegetarian. I only consume fish on occaison, but no other meats.

My husband and I have a pretty healthy diet. I buy very little packaged food, and I try to find healthy alternatives to the unhealthy foods we both crave.

He keeps soda in the house, but I don't drink it, and I've made it very clear to him that when we decide to have kids...the soda and junk goes out the door (again to be a "special occaison" type thing).

Both my husband and I work, but despite limited time, I try to make sure to cook homemade meals, and limit the amount of junk we consume.

What is wrong with these people?

It's pure laziness if you ask me.

  • 2 votes
Reply#9 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:48 PM EDT
krishna-167929

What is wrong with these people?

It's pure laziness if you ask me.

A good question-- I was wondering the same thing.

I don't really know, but I think in many cases, as you say, its just laziness-- its a lot easier to pick up some junk food than to cook. And in addition to having to cook, you have to shop for food.

And perhaps in some cases its just that some people are uninformed-- they don't realize the differences in consequences between eating junk and eating healthy.

But many people are eating in a much less healthy way than people did a generation ago.And there are consequences. There was a line in one of those videos that I've heard before-- as I remeber it it said:

This generation of kids is the first in some time that will have a shorter lifespan than their parents

  • 4 votes
#9.1 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:39 PM EDT
Mego-507171

Yeah that was perhaps the most shocking fact in the show...

  • 3 votes
#9.2 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 12:25 AM EDT
krishna-167929

Yeah that was perhaps the most shocking fact in the show...

It is shocking-- although I've heard it before.

There are several causes I believe. Poor diet. And currently people seem to be getting less exercise. And what is less widely known-- toxins in the environment-- a whole other issue.

  • 4 votes
#9.3 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 2:50 PM EDT
Reply
alkimija

This is not as shocking as it should be. After all, when I'm doing grocery shopping, I find that many of the grocery clerks have no idea what many of the vegetables are that I'm buying. And it's not as if I'm buying exotic kiwano cucumbers all day long. These people can't recognize fennel (something I'm always asked about), or cilantro. It's actually quite scary sometimes when the clerk asks me about more than half of the veggies that I'm buying.

Clerk: "Oh, I've never tried avocado before, it looks gross."

Me, dryly: "Have you ever had guacamole?"

Clerk: "Oh yeah, I love the stuff."

Me, unimpressed: "You make guacamole with avocados."

Clerk: "No way!"

Seriously, that's a conversation I had once.

One time I had a conversation with a woman who - and I @!$%# you not - asked what the difference was between virgin olive oil and regular olive oil. When I started explaining that it all had to do with how many times the olives had been pressed and the acidity etc., she replied by exclaiming, "Oh, I never knew that olive oil was made from olives!"

I think my soul cringed.

  • 3 votes
Reply#10 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 4:25 AM EDT
Buzz of the Orient

"Oh, I never knew that olive oil was made from olives!"

Guess you should have told her that it's bottled at gas stations when they change the motor oil in cars. An interesting fact from China - if you put one drop of olive oil in with any other type such as fish oil or corn oil it can be labelled "olive oil blend". It's best to shop in the imports section of the supermarket.

  • 2 votes
#10.1 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 5:42 AM EDT
Mego-507171

This is not as shocking as it should be. After all, when I'm doing grocery shopping, I find that many of the grocery clerks have no idea what many of the vegetables are that I'm buying.

This is a very valid point. Those people are probably the parents of the kids who can't identify basic food and veg.

  • 2 votes
#10.2 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 11:28 AM EDT
krishna-167929

This is not as shocking as it should be. After all, when I'm doing grocery shopping, I find that many of the grocery clerks have no idea what many of the vegetables are that I'm buying. And it's not as if I'm buying exotic kiwano cucumbers all day long. These people can't recognize fennel (something I'm always asked about), or cilantro. It's actually quite scary sometimes when the clerk asks me about more than half of the veggies that I'm buying.

Wow-- I can really relate to that! I have had so many similar experiences!

I am fairly health conscious, so I do buy a lot of veggies. And I buy them fresh and cook them myself.(Soemtime I keep some frozen ones in the freezer for "emeergencies", but I try to eat fresh ones daily).

On numerous occasions when I've brought Kale or Collard Greens to the checkout, the checkout person has asked me "What is that"? (of course sometimes there's a bar code and they merely scan it-- but often when there isn't they are totally mystified at these "strange" exotic vegetables!)

  • 3 votes
#10.3 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 2:44 PM EDT
krishna-167929

"Oh, I never knew that olive oil was made from olives!"

LOL.

Well-- at least to her credit she had heard of olives. At the rate we seem to be going in this area, I would imagine there are people who have no idea what an olive is.

  • 3 votes
#10.4 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 2:56 PM EDT
krishna-167929

An interesting fact from China - if you put one drop of olive oil in with any other type such as fish oil or corn oil it can be labelled "olive oil blend". It's best to shop in the imports section of the supermarket.

there are a few rules in the U.S. that are somewhat similar.

For example, bread may be labeled "Whole Wheat Bread" if it has some whole wheat flour in it-- although it may also have white flour as well. (It may be that a certain percentage is required to be whole wheat-- I don't remember). Of course the smart thing to do if you want bread made from only whole grain is to read the list of ingredients.

And of course bread may have all sorts of other junk in it as well-- probably HFCS (high fructose corn syrup which turns up in all sorts of products) and in many cases trans fats for starters...both are to be avoided IMO.

  • 3 votes
#10.5 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 3:04 PM EDT
RACHEL1-933952

We go through the "What is this?" every time we grocery shop. I look at it as a teaching experience. I also drop ideas to them on how I utilize the veggies/fruit that they ask about.

  • 3 votes
#10.6 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 3:27 PM EDT
krishna-167929

We go through the "What is this?" every time we grocery shop. I look at it as a teaching experience.

A good thing to do! :-)

I also drop ideas to them on how I utilize the veggies/fruit that they ask about.

I recently had an interesting experience. Checking out at a local supermarket, I had some Kale. The checkout person was mystified. After I explained what it was and mentioned that it was really nutritious, she asked

How do you prepare it

I was a bit surprized, as I usually assume that just about any vegetable can be steamed or sauteed. Didn't seem like a mystery to me. So I told her.

  • 3 votes
#10.7 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 3:57 PM EDT
RACHEL1-933952

Me either!

Our last cashier told us she was coming to our house for dinner, we had so much healthy food! Glad we didn't write a check with our address on it! LOL

  • 3 votes
#10.8 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 4:25 PM EDT
Reply
Shub Tnediserp Remrof

I heard about this show yesterday. Something how he had shown a bunch of kids what chicken nuggets are made of through a blender. Will have to get into this show. The biggest problem in my opinion about fruits and veggies is that there are some on both sides that can be pushed into the other side such as tomatoes. For most of my childhood I was told they were vegtables than as I got older I was taught they were fruit. In my opinion they are both. I think there is another one similar just vice versa to tomatoes.

  • 3 votes
Reply#11 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 9:56 AM EDT
krishna-167929

The biggest problem in my opinion about fruits and veggies is that there are some on both sides that can be pushed into the other side such as tomatoes. For most of my childhood I was told they were vegtables than as I got older I was taught they were fruit. In my opinion they are both. I think there is another one similar just vice versa to tomatoes.

Yes-- there are a few others like that-- I don't remember them off hand.

And there are also some things we think of as "fruits" which are actually classified by botanists as "seeds"-- and vice versa.

But I try to eat healthy and am not too concerned with nomenclature (although I did hear a rumour that some con artists were trying to pass off as genuine some olive oil that was actually made from fried nomenclatures :-)

  • 3 votes
#11.1 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 3:08 PM EDT
krishna-167929

But I try to eat healthy and am not too concerned with nomenclature

Reminds me of the old saying:

I don't care what you call me-- as long as you don't call me late for dinner!

  • 3 votes
#11.2 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 3:10 PM EDT
Reply
RACHEL1-933952

Have watched both episodes so far...I love what Jamie is doing, I wish those folks in WV would get it!

BTW-yes, growing up my children knew their fruits and veggies...Every week we had a tasting, I'd buy all types (common & exotic) of both and we would taste every thing. To this day my children (26 & 29) love their fruits and vegetables. As do my grand-children.

  • 3 votes
Reply#12 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 11:19 AM EDT
Shub Tnediserp Remrof

[Spoiler alert]

I have to say I just watched the show on Hulu and OMG how do these children not know how to use utensils! Though I would love to take the deep fryer that family buried. I could so use one. It takes more than just eating right though to get these children in the right path. Now sure I'm underweight, but this is wrong what they eat I mean who eats pizza for breakfast and chicken nuggets for lunch, and and chicken nuggets for supper. Golden food is not always the best food to eat. I on occasion will eat pizza, but on a daily basis it's like you might as well as go to McDonalds and eat every meal there. Super Size Me! didn't anyone in America watch it and have the temptation to go there, but in the end result force themselves that the food they are serving is not real. The food these students at WV school they are broadcasting most of it becomes waste. After Jamie had shown what they eat in a school year with all that fat the students started eating nutrious food and their plates were mostly empty. Doesn't that tell the FDA that change needs to happen?

The only concern I have about Jamie is that his resume might be fixed just a little bit like that one food guy on the food channel a few years ago. Other than that this Jamie guy and the First lady need to work together.

  • 3 votes
#12.1 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 12:15 PM EDT
krishna-167929

BTW-yes, growing up my children knew their fruits and veggies...Every week we had a tasting, I'd buy all types (common & exotic) of both and we would taste every thing.

A tasting of different fruits a vegetables-- what a great idea!

Obviously kids' experience at home plays a large part in shaping their future behaviour.

I was also lucky as a kid. My parents were very health conscious. For example, they never allowed any candy into the house. I remember that in the summer, at the end of dinner, we has a special treat for dessert-- fresh picked ripe peaches from the peach tree in the backyard. They were so sweet and delicious. And my parents always made a big deal over how delicious some of the fresh picked vegetables from our garden were.

We occasionally had ice cream in the summer-- but never candy. Most of the "sweets" we had were ripe fruit.

But some things are shaped by popular culture. Even though my family was generally health conscious, my mother smoked for many years. (In those days people were still unaware of all the dangers of smoking). Finally she did give it up...

  • 3 votes
#12.2 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 3:17 PM EDT
krishna-167929

The only concern I have about Jamie is that his resume might be fixed just a little bit like that one food guy on the food channel a few years ago. Other than that this Jamie guy and the First lady need to work together.

I don't want to get into a wide-ranging partisan political discussion here, but I think we should "give credit where credit is due".

Here's a relevant article about what Michelle Obama is doing in that area: Michelle Obama’s Agenda Includes Healthful Eating

  • 3 votes
#12.3 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 3:22 PM EDT
Reply
Buzz of the Orient

Where I grew up there was an open air farmer's market, with the stalls covered by narrow roofs in case of rain. Our city was surrounded by a lot of market garden farms and fruit farms so it was a favourite place to go on Saturday morning with all the fresh multi-coloured foods and fresh smells. My father told a story about overhearing a conversation (obviously many years ago because of the price) between a woman shopper and a farmer, when she was in the process of bargaining for the purchase of cucumbers:

Woman: How much are these cucumbers?

Farmer: 10 cents each.

Woman: That's too much, if I go to the supermarket over there I can buy two for a quarter.

Farmer: Okay lady, if the supermarket can afford to lose money, so can I. Here you are, two for a quarter.

  • 3 votes
Reply#13 - Thu Apr 1, 2010 8:02 PM EDT
Leave a Comment:
You're in Easy Mode. If you prefer, you can use XHTML Mode instead.
You're in XHTML Mode. If you prefer, you can use Easy Mode instead.
(XHTML tags allowed - a,b,blockquote,br,code,dd,dl,dt,del,em,h2,h3,h4,i,ins,li,ol,p,pre,q,strong,ul)
Newsvine Privacy Statement
As a new user, you may notice a few temporary content restrictions. Click here for more info.
FUN STUFF:
  • Leaderboard |
  • E-Mail Alerts |
  • Top of the Vine |
  • Newsvine Live |
  • Newsvine Archives |
  • The Greenhouse |
COMPANY STUFF:
  • Code of Honor |
  • Company Info |
  • Contact Us |
  • Jobs |
  • User Agreement |
  • Privacy Policy |
  • About our ads
LEGAL STUFF:
  • © 2005-2012 Newsvine, Inc. |
  • Newsvine® is a registered trademark of Newsvine, Inc. |
  • Newsvine is a property of msnbc.com