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Organic Food is Better

Seeded on Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:34 PM EDT
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"Organic food is usually more expensive than its conventional counterparts, so, are you getting more for your money? We think so; check out some of our picks explaining the benefits of eating organic.

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krishna-167929

As more research is done, the advantages of organic food become more andf more obvious (or, perhaps more accurately-- the disadvantages of eating non-organic).

  • 9 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:36 PM EDT
Simplelogic-007

Unfortunately the unfair higher costs of organic foods makes it difficult for everyone to benefit from them.

Welfare economics theory holds that sometimes private activities can impose social costs upon others. Industrial agriculture is widely considered to impose social costs through pesticide pollution and nitrate pollution. Further, agriculture uses large amounts of water, a scarce resource. Some economists argue that taxes should be levied on agriculture, or that organic agriculture, which uses little pesticides and experiences relatively little nitrate runoff, should be encouraged with subsidies. In the United States, 65% of the approximately $16.5 billion in annual subsidies went to the top 10% of farmers in 2002 because subsidies are linked to certain commodities. On the other hand, organic farming received $5 million for help in certification and $15 million for research over a 5-year time period.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:05 AM EDT
krishna-167929

Unfortunately the unfair higher costs of organic foods makes it difficult for everyone to benefit from them.

One of the reasons orgsanic foods are more exp[ensive is that there is limited production-- due to limited demand. Msany people do not look for them, as they are unaware of the benefits.

I have been slowly transitioning towards eating organic. Some are much cheaper than others...

  • 5 votes
#2.1 - Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:08 AM EDT
CuriousG

Economies of scale are certainly one reason organic food cost more. However, the paragraph above regarding subsidies and hidden environmental costs with conventional agriculture, along with higher payments to farmers, also contribute to the higher cost of organic over conventionally grown food.

I like to say the higher cost of organic food is the true cost of our food, with all the hidden costs mentioned above included.

  • 4 votes
#2.2 - Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:34 AM EDT
Auteur 1536

But in an economy that's struggling, pricy groceries is not what we need.

    #2.3 - Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:58 PM EDT
    CuriousG

    True, but we can't continue to avoid paying what it truly costs either. We're killing the planet and ourselves with our number one goal being low cost. The upfront costs may be low, but the downstream costs to our health and environment are enormous and totally hidden.

    • 4 votes
    #2.4 - Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:00 PM EDT
    krishna-167929

    But in an economy that's struggling, pricy groceries is not what we need.

    Well, of course, we still have a choice whether to buy organic or not. (And there are some people who feel the difference is health benefits is so significant that you might actually end up saving money on midical care by eating organic over the long run).

    • 3 votes
    #2.5 - Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:19 AM EDT
    Auteur 1536

    I shop for fruits at the local farmer's market or grocery store and get my other groceries elsewhere. The only problem is finding a market that sells decent free-range meat.

    • 2 votes
    #2.6 - Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:41 PM EDT
    parks05

    the downstream costs to our health and environment are enormous and totally hidden

    Nah, they're glossed over by the FDA (aka - Big Ag - BASF, Bayer CropScience, Dow AgroSciences, DuPont, FMC Corp., Monsanto, Sumitomo and Syngenta.)

    They aren't necessarily hidden, they're made to look harmless. So I guess it could be argued they're hidden in plain sight.

    • 1 vote
    #2.7 - Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:25 PM EDT
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    Simplelogic-007

    One of the reasons orgsanic foods are more exp[ensive is that there is limited production-- due to limited demand.

    The demand is there, it actually has to do with what I touched on above and the farming practices involved in producing organic foods. Things would be much different if the organic farmers received more subsidies than commercial farmers do. But due to a lot of government ties involving commodities that is unlikely to happen. Have you had a chance to see the documentary Food Inc?

    • 6 votes
    Reply#3 - Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:43 AM EDT
    GEEZER-guy

    More is not always better. The media is ranting about obesity; perhaps our food is too cheap. I used to live near a Whole Foods and found they put fruit, veggies and grains (organic) on special, often putting the cost down to that of the local grocery chain stores. Consuming meat is much more costly than fruits/vegetables; lessen or discontinue eating meat allows budgeting for organic produce and gives less dollars to the corporate factory-farm cartels.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#4 - Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:56 PM EDT
    Auteur 1536

    It's inaccurate to imply and or say that eating meat is a contribution to obesity.

    • 1 vote
    #4.1 - Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:57 PM EDT
    krishna-167929

    The media is ranting about obesity; perhaps our food is too cheap.

    Actually, i don't think that cheap food is a major contribution to the "obesity epidemic" (although eating inorganic may be more of a contributing factor than many realize..).

    • 3 votes
    #4.2 - Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:21 AM EDT
    krishna-167929

    Consuming meat is much more costly than fruits/vegetables;

    Good point.

    While organic fruits and vegetables (as well as most other product) cost more, that could be partially offset if one ate organuic-- and mostly gave up meat as a protein source and switchedd to vegetarian sources of protein (mainly beans, soy products, grains-- even dairy).

    Also, it should be noted that eating organic and eating vegetarian are two different things. For example, you could eat strictly organic and still eat meat-- and you can be a total vegetarian but not eat organic!

    • 3 votes
    #4.3 - Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:25 AM EDT
    Auteur 1536

    For example, you could eat strictly organic and still eat meat-- and you can be a total vegetarian but not eat organic!

    Unless you're being harassed by the PETA nuts who don't consider anyone organic unless they eat vegan.

    • 2 votes
    #4.4 - Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:44 PM EDT
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    Lilithbytes

    I like the idea of eating healthy meals, rather than stickling over whether to have organic potatoes after you've deep fried any nutrients out of them, choosing healthy meals would be a good start for anyone who is considering switching from hormone fed, gmo crops, chemically fertilized etc, otherwise I tend to think you'd be wasting your money.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#5 - Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:25 AM EDT
    krishna-167929

    I like the idea of eating healthy meals, rather than stickling over whether to have organic potatoes after you've deep fried any nutrients out of them, choosing healthy meals would be a good start for anyone who is considering switching from hormone fed, gmo crops, chemically fertilized etc, otherwise I tend to think you'd be wasting your money.

    I think part of the problem is that people might disagree as to what is considered "healthy".

    • 1 vote
    #5.1 - Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:43 PM EDT
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    GEEZER-guy

    Of course, Vegetarian is not synonymous with organic; I was suggesting a possible economic solution to the higher cost (sometimes) of organic produce. Food and nutrition is such a sticky subject (pun intended) because everyone is so defensive of what is familiar.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#6 - Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:36 PM EDT
    krishna-167929

    Of course, Vegetarian is not synonymous with organic; I was suggesting a possible economic solution to the higher cost (sometimes) of organic produce.

    IMO, that's a good idea. Actually, I've been moving in that direction-- I used to have meat/fish for both lunch and dinner. Now I have changed-- I have been experimenting with having only beans and a grain as my main protein source for lunch-- no meat or fish for lunch. And have been moving towards buying more and more organic items.

    Food and nutrition is such a sticky subject (pun intended) because everyone is so defensive of what is familiar.

    It seems many people have a strong attachment to their beliefs about food...in some cases it reminds me of the way some people feel about their religious and/or political viewpoints!

    • 4 votes
    Reply#7 - Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:57 PM EDT
    krishna-167929

    Yet another reason to eat organic:

    Group urges ban of 3 common food dyes

    The Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) says food dyes pose a number of risks to the American public and is calling on the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to ban three of the most commonly used dyes: Red 40, Yellow 5 and Yellow 6. A new CSPI report says those dyes contain known carcinogens and contaminants that unnecessarily increase the risks of cancer, hyperactivity in children and allergic reactions.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#8 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 10:05 AM EDT
    krishna-167929

    The move towards organic is a definite trend-- as more and more people learn about the important reasons for switiching to organic food. Whole Foods is a food store chain that is very popular-- and many are temrted to invest in the company-- but I recently came across this-- a caution about WFMI as an investment:

    The problems go beyond the P/E ratio. David Trainer, president of New Constructs, a research firm in Nashville, Tenn., loves the stores, but has the stock on his list of the "most dangerous stocks for July."

    (Article is seeded HERE).

    • 1 vote
    Reply#9 - Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:27 PM EDT
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